Raptors team total rebounds O/U 44.5 vs Pistons - books missing Poeltl injury news?

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Seeing Raptors team total rebounds set at O/U 44.5 for tonight's game vs Detroit, but Poeltl is listed as questionable with that back strain from Tuesday's practice. He's been averaging 9.2 rebounds per game and Toronto's been grabbing 42.1 per game without him in the lineup this season.

Detroit ranks 23rd in defensive rebounding at 32.4 per game, so this feels like books haven't adjusted for the Poeltl uncertainty. Boucher and Olynyk splitting center minutes would be a significant downgrade on the glass - Boucher's only pulling 4.1 per game in 22 minutes.

Anyone else thinking this Under looks solid if Poeltl sits? Or am I missing something about Toronto's rebounding depth?

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You're overthinking this one. Poeltl's been questionable half the season with random bumps and bruises, guy plays through everything. Even if he sits 10 minutes, Barnes and Siakam crash the boards harder when they need to step up.

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Actually tracked this exact scenario three times this season when Poeltl missed time. Raptors averaged 39.7 team rebounds in those games, with Boucher and Olynyk combining for just 7.2 compared to Poeltl's usual 9+. The bigger issue is Detroit's pace - they're playing 102.3 possessions per game over their last 8, which inflates total rebounding opportunities.

That said, if you're confident Poeltl sits, Tonybet has been sharp on NBA player prop adjustments this season. Their rebounding totals usually move within 2-3 hours of injury news breaking. Worth monitoring their line movement before tip-off.

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This reminds me of a similar spot I caught last February when Valanciunas was questionable for Memphis against the Lakers. Books had his team rebounds at 47.5, but JJJ was already out with that foot injury. I hammered the under at -110, thinking they'd struggle without both big men.

Game goes to overtime, Memphis grabs 51 rebounds total, and I'm watching Steven Adams pull down 14 boards like he's prime Dennis Rodman. Sometimes the backup centers just step up in ways you don't expect, especially against teams like Detroit that don't really punish you for playing small.

The lesson I learned that night was to check the opposing team's rebounding weaknesses more carefully. Detroit's been getting torched on the offensive glass lately - they're giving up 11.8 second-chance points per game over their last 10. Even without Poeltl, guys like Scottie Barnes and OG can clean up those extra possessions. I'd be cautious on this under, even with the injury angle.

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Running the numbers on Toronto's rebounding distribution when Poeltl's out: Barnes sees his rebounding rate jump from 12.4% to 16.1%, Siakam goes from 11.8% to 14.3%. The real killer is offensive rebounds - Poeltl's 3.1 ORB per game gets spread across multiple players who aren't nearly as effective crashing from the center position.

Detroit allows 10.9 offensive rebounds per game (28th in the league), but that's mostly due to poor positioning rather than lack of size. Isaiah Stewart and Jalen Duren both rebound well when they're focused. The pace factor is interesting - 102+ possessions creates more rebounding opportunities, but also more transition situations where Toronto's wings might not get back to crash the glass.

I've been tracking BetOnline for these exact injury-related props, and they typically shade their totals conservatively when a key rebounder is questionable. If they're still sitting at 44.5 three hours before tip, that tells me they expect Poeltl to play limited minutes at minimum.

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Detroit's been playing faster lately but they're also fouling more - 22.1 fouls per game over their last 6. More free throws means fewer rebounding opportunities overall. Toronto shoots 78.2% from the line, so they're not missing many attempts for Detroit to clean up.

The Poeltl factor is real though. When he missed those games in November, Raptors hit the under on team rebounds 4 out of 5 times. Boucher just doesn't have the positioning instincts.

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Books aren't stupid. If this was such an obvious under, the line would've moved already. Poeltl's been probable-to-questionable all season and still plays 32+ minutes most nights.

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@torontotommy the line hasn't moved because the Detroit side is getting action too. I'm seeing this from Windsor and the Michigan books have Detroit team total rebounds climbing from 41.5 to 42.5 since yesterday. Pistons grabbed 47 boards against Milwaukee on Tuesday with Isaiah Stewart pulling down 11 - that's the angle most people are missing.

Toronto's 78.2% free throw shooting actually works against the under here. When they're making their shots, Detroit has to rebound live misses instead of free throw attempts. Poeltl being out means more contested rebounds but also more long rebounds off Toronto's perimeter shooting.